In high school, senior English introduced me to the codified world of fallacious reasoning. Throughout college I learned a bit more about it, but it seems the only people who really understand logical fallacies thoroughly are philosophes and rhetoricists. They’ve always been considered bad things, and in strict terms of argument-in-order-to-win, I suppose they are. But I think they can do some good too.
If one assumes that a discussion is taking place with the goal of communication and understanding instead of the goal of victory of opinion, then the deliberate and open use of fallacious logic can serve to test the efficacy of each argument. The true test of an argument is against another argument just as efficacious, but by running the logical fallacy gauntlet I think that any theory can be tempered. At the very least it will force the people wrestling with the idea to consider multiple applications or discover the possible flaws in their position.
That is the kind of dialogue that I try to participate in. When people don’t want to “be right” or “win” an argument; when they want mutual understanding; those are the discussions I enjoy most. I love having a long chat and ending by standing on the same piece of ground as someone else, even if we’re looking in different directions.
I think I end up doing that here an awful lot. I set up straw men and more often than not throw my own straw men at them. I’m not even arguing with myself.
screw mutual understanding. i’m always right.
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That is unfortunate. You’ve never made a mistake and so you’ve never learned from your mistakes. You must be terribly ignorant.
are you trying to use a logical fallacy right now to win this argument?
No, I’m using a logical fallacy [guess which one!] for a different reason.
i beg off; you’ll have to disclose. I haven’t the time here at work to thoughtfully employ my skills of induction/deduction/reduction/seduction.
i’ve never made a mistake in my seduction so am i terribly ignorant?
You’ve got a screw loose.
no, i’m a loose screw.
i’m just kidding!
Everything on this blog always comes back to sex.
Except you 😉
All too true.
False Dilemma
You’ve never made a mistake and so you’ve never learned from your mistakes. You must be terribly ignorant.
When in fact, there are other ways to learn than just from mistakes.
Seduce THAT.